Hello
I think by advertising on every free classified might help to get Aidpage name out there. You would have to find a section to do so in the free classifieds. I don't know if that would work. If you had a .com without adsence you could put it ( if they exist anymore) on surf sites but that is time consuming to sit and promote a site. Been there and did it.
Best of luck
Starshine
thank you Emil, for the info, please don't let anything happen to aid page, everyone enjoy's it to much, and there are alot of good people on here, happy Easter, everyone
sandy6
Effective today (March 29, 2011), the Sharing Program on Aidpage is discontinued.
A recent violation of the Adsense policies by one of the participants in our Sharing Program created a critical situation for Aidpage.
Our mission is to keep Aidpage afloat and to ensure its viability. We decided to discontinue the Sharing Program in order to protect the interests of the Aidpage community as a whole.
Well, this does clear up some things, like the way that things are calculated here so that it is not just what is clicked and such. I never looked at the code to see what was listed - never really had the itch to look.
Now Google - those charts and algorithms and such have me completely confused. I can't find much of a pattern or system in all that mess for how this or that is paid out. This site get's these clicks and gets paid for them...or a bunch of them. That site gets clicks and doesn't get paid. Another site gets paid for Mon. clicks but not Sun. clicks. It's all Greek to me how it's calculated up.
Bottom line is that I don't really have much gray matter left over to be lending to figuring it out. I've got my hands full trying to keep up with work I have coming in. As long as it's humming and trickling a little cash into that acct. I say leave it alone and let it go.
Messing with things you don't understand has a tendency to make them stop working. Call it Murphy's Law, but I prefer to not tempt that set of laws, that likes to make things more complicated and miserable than normal in life.
Thanks for offering an explanation to how this whole mess works.
Enjoy the weekend...
in response to Emil...Ok I will. Im glad you made the public post as its easy to be swayed by others and I would hate to see the page fall apart over untrue accusations. I hope more people will ask if they have questions and not make assumptions... Thanks again and Ill post that to you soon..
take care
in response to Emil...Yes i have one, like i have stated, it was confusing to me, and someone else set this up for me. I became involved in some of the peoples lives here and my main concern was helping them with info and the being paid part just wasnt my focus anymore. As of late, there have been many questions surrounding whether or not anyone was generating income on their pages and thats why Im asking now for my own knowledge. Yes i hAve an id.
Adsense is how you get paid... true... but first, you needed to give us your Adsense ID so that we can implement it on Aidpage.
This is clearly written in our instructions - once you get your Adsense ID, contact AidpageTeam through one-to-one message... so that they can implement it for you on Aidpage.
How in the world would you be able to add your Adsense ID to your homepage on Aidpage?
Again... why didn't you ask us about not having any results on Adsense? Why not talking to us?
in response to Emil...Thats why I am asking now, as I said there is alot of confusion and I assumed that adsense is how we got paid, I had no idea that it was some other sharing program but thanks for clearing up the confusion. The way I understood it, once I got my adsense id, all I had to do was add it to my homepage to generate income with "clicks and links" so thats why I never contacted anyone until now with all the different stories going around about people being defrauded, I wanted some clarification. Thanks Emil
char
I just checked your messages with AidpageTeam. You never contacted us about wanting to join the Sharing after we congratulated you about becoming a Contributor on Oct 28th, 2010. You did not reply to our message at all.
At that time, we also invited you to the non-public space about the Sharing Program where you could see all the necessary instructions.
Since taking part in the Sharing is optional for Contributors and you never sent us a message with your Adsense Publisher ID... or any message at all... we assumed that you were not interested.
Again... why didn't you ask us about this for so many months?
Please, give AidpageTeam your Adsense Publisher ID (in one-to-one message). We'll be more than happy to add you to the Sharing.
Hi EMil
I signed up with adsense back in Sept or Oct of last year, I never made a dime on here, so is there something else that I need to do through aidpage which would generate revenue or is it only how your account is set up on adsense? Im a little confused because I know of some members that say they have earned about what you say like 15 to 20 dollars in the past 4-5 weeks but since I signed up last year, never made anything...there was a time I wasnt working and so had lots of postings and spent probably hours a day on the page, and never generated anything so I did read your post and how money is calculated, but as a active member was I doing something wrong or did I not sign up correctly or??? Im just not really understanding how someone that just signed up made money and I never did..if you can help me with understanding I would appreciate it and be happy to pass on what you say to other members. Part of the confusion i think is that too many people are discussing what they earn and maybe not being truthful and so its making others feel like its an unfair system so I think it would help anyone who doesnt understand or still has questions to ask and be done with it so we are all on the same page.
thanks
char
By Emil - on Feb 10, 2011... modified on Feb 10, 2011
Dear Aidmates,
I'm posting this in response to recent questions we received about our Sharing Program. It seems that members need a better understanding about how our Sharing works.
PLEASE, take the time to read this post slowly and carefully! And, if you still don't understand how the Sharing program works after reading this, please ask us questions directly. We are here to answer your questions.
Purpose of The Sharing Program
The Sharing Program is a way for our company to offer a small help (for paying a monthly bill or two) to some of our active members. Nothing more. No member should rely on a significant and/or steady income from Aidpage.
History of The Sharing Program
As you may know, we, at People Networks (the company that owns and operates Aidpage), decided back in 2006 that it will be a good thing to start helping out members of Aidpage who show up here everyday (or almost everyday) with small, almost symbolic, sums of money.
At first, it was just a test with a couple of invited members, then we opened it to other people as AID (Aidpage Income Distribution), and finally (July 2010) we re-conceived and re-started it as ARSP (Aidpage Revenue Sharing Program).
Before July 2010, our Sharing was based on the traditional Google Adsense logic where people would get a percent of the income generated on their pages. More visitors, pageviews, and clicks on your pages meant higher earnings. Everything looked fine and fair... until we noticed strange things.
Measured in visitors, pageviews, and clicks, the single biggest "star" on Aidpage became a member who posted a single post of one-sentence and stayed on Aidpage for a few days back in 2005! Most of you have seen this page - free-money-to-help-pay-bills.app-butterfly-1.aidpage.com.
We took a look at this and noticed that it was not an isolated case. Across Aidpage, there was little connection between a member's activity and the success of his/her pages according to Google's algorithms. Google's logic was probably good for it's own purposes on the web at large, but it did not reflect correctly who was doing what on Aidpage.
So we gathered data and experience - and came to the conclusion that traffic and pageviews should not be used as measures and basis for our Sharing Program. After a lot of thinking and research, in July 2010, we re-started the Sharing Program with a new setup and logic.
The New Sharing Program
All of the Aidpage revenue comes from the Google ads you see on Aidpage. This is a very difficult way of generating revenue. Despite the fact that Aidpage still doesn't cover our business expenses (it barely covers about 50%), we dedicate a portion of Aidpage's total revenue to be shared with active members. This portion is divided between participants in the Sharing Program according to a formula which calculates the "level of activity" of each member.
Less active members may get $5 a month, while those posting daily may get $20-$30 monthly. A few, super active members get monthly payouts of over $100. Shares are NOT calculated by counting pageviews and ad clicks. They are calculated according to level of activity on Aidpage, not visitor and pageview stats.
What is "level of activity"?
To calculate the "level of activity" of a member, we count the words from all her/his public posts and then we apply a correction for "quality". So, "level of activity" = "volume" x "quality"
How this "level of activity" translates into pageviews and ad clicks in my Adsense Account?
Our formula for "level of activity" produces your "share" as percentage of what is available for Sharing. This percentage defines how many times the system will serve your Adsense Publisher ID across ALL pages on Aidpage. We recalculate your share once a week.
I still don't get it. What are those other Adsense Publisher IDs doing in the source code of my pages?
As we explained above, the Adsense IDs of all participants are being served by our system across ALL pages on Aidpage. Everyone gets a number of "impressions" of his/her ID according to his "share" as calculated by our formula. All IDs are served across ALL pages randomly. If you look at the source code of any page, you may see the Publisher ID of any of the participants. Our software makes sure that everyone gets its calculated share of impressions over a period of time. Ask yourself - how come you see impressions and numbers in your Adsense account? The stats you see in your Adsense account show exactly the number of times your Publisher ID was served across Aidpage (according to our formula).
But how come I see the same Publisher ID (not mine!) every time I check the source code?
You probably see the Publisher ID that belongs to People Networks. As I said above, we dedicate a portion of Aidpage's revenue to be shared with active members despite the fact that Aidpage still doesn't cover our business expenses. What we can afford to dedicate for Sharing is still a small portion of the total revenue. That's why you see our Publisher ID most of the time. Don't forget that all the participants in the Sharing Program taken together make for only a part of the overall posting activity on Aidpage. There are many regular members and Contributors who are not part of the Sharing Program. Aidpage has also a large number of content pages (hundreds of thousands) posted automatically by our system. In other words, it is only natural that most of time the system serves our Publisher ID.
As a defined portion of our revenue, the money available for Sharing goes up and down as does the total Aidpage revenue. This means, unfortunately, that if we face a financial crisis, we may decide to lower the dedicated portion for sharing (as a percentage from our Aidpage revenue) or even suspend the Sharing Program without much warning. We may simply not have enough money to pay our own bills and we may have to shut down Aidpage. We never had to do something like this... and hopefully, we won't have to do it.
Hopefully, with the growth of Aidpage, we will be able to make a larger portion of our revenue available for Sharing. Remember, we still operate with negative margins as a business. We still function as a truly "non-profit" business.
Please, ask us questions! Again, if you still don't understand how the Sharing program works after reading this post, PLEASE ask us questions.
Hello Emil
I hope Aidpage never shuts down as it is a source for information and help for people who don't know how to find it on their own. And many people who came here before me have a wealth of information collected to help people that I hate to see that lost if Aidpage was no more.
Wishing you and Aidpage the best,
Starshine
By AidpageTeam - on Jan 25, 2011... modified on Jan 25, 2011
Some of you may have noticed a new link - My keywords - in the header of Aidpage (visible to logged in members only).
This meny gives you quick access to Aidpage discussions of interest to you. You can quickly read new posts in any of these discussions, post a reply, comment, or make a new post right there.
Where these keywords come from?
The keywords come from your "More about me" page. Go there and look under the post (in the unit called "More about me...").
But notice - not all of the keywords on your "More about me" post will appear in your "My keywords" menu. Only keywords for which there is an already started Discussion page will show up in the menu "My keywords." Discussion pages are started automatically when more than 2 people on Aidpage share the same keyword. After all, you can't have a good discussion if you are the only person talking... :)
Also - if you don't have any keywords under your "More about me" post, you won't see the menu "My keywords" at all.
Can I delete/add keywords in the menu "My keywords"...?
Yes, you can do this by editing your "More about me" post. When editing your post, you are able to add or remove keywords.
Tips about keyword phrases:
Spell check them!!!
Don't make them longer than 2-3 words.
Use common keyword phrases if you want to match an existing Discussion page.
in response to Starshine...Not unless we were drones.Then would we have no idea on whether we were peaceful or not. We'd have nothing to judge it by or the sense to know the difference.
Well, the situation is over and done with as you can tell it bothered me so much that I trembled with fear.lol Don't worry about it, just don't do it again.lol
Talk to you later, tootles.
in response to Schmidty...I don't know what comments I made to you that blind sided you and sorry if I did. I read stuff yesterday that put me out of character really bad yesterday and the person was removed plus I didn't ask for them to be removed. I am trying to think , my ex lost my trust and perhaps my sister lost my trust. Other than that at a blank who else might have lost my trust.
I like all the people in this family here on Aidpage too. I just saw someone on the board that I had not heard from today and I wonder what is going on.
We are all different that is for sure. Be boring if we were all alike. Might be more of a peaceful world if we were.
Take care
Starshine
I think you are correct it is a question of trust. We build bonds and relationships and has sheshe pointed out we get comfortable. We begin to view the person sitting at a computer as our friend. It's not like our every day lives where we are able to see the flaws of our family and friends that we share space with. We accept others here based on what they tell us, and some times that results is a wonderful friendship, and some times that results in a let down. We don't have the advantage of getting to really know others on a personal bases, and there may be times that our trust is crushed and our hearts are broken, but that's how we learn. We can either pick up the pieces and move on like adults, or we can sit back and complain.
The one to one's should not be used as our personal battle ground in which we seek to revenge someone who disagrees with our way of thinking. I was taught that if you cannot say something nice then it's best to say nothing at all. I was also taught to be honest and straight forward, and if I have a problem I need to go to the source not through coping and pasting and back stabbing.
I view this site has I would a family. There are some we love dearly and there are some we learn to accept. There are some who need comfort and some that have the ability to comfort. There are some that have wisdom, and some that are still learning. Everyone here is searching for something, and maybe we need to look at them with more compassion and understanding.
Trust takes time to earn, but can be destroyed with a few words. Maybe there are times we need to listen more and talk less. And we need to remember whatever someone shares with us in the one to ones was meant to be kept between us, and try our best to honor the trust.
God Bless
in response to sheshe030...Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it. You have many that trust you. I know that you wouldn't betray a or that confidance which is given to you . You are straight forward yourself which is one of a thousand reasons why I like you . Later
in response to Starshine...Thank you, you should know about trust.You have many people who have and do trust you. There are comments that you have made to me that kind of blindsided me, but I just ignore it.
I have heard a thing or two that has put you out of character. Don't ask me who because you aren't privy to that information.
I know the meaning of trust, the people who I rode with had to trust each other and stick up for each other even if that person was wrong, but that was the group dynamic.
Just like any family trust becomes an issue at times.I like all the people in this family, so far and as far as I can throw them as one would say. Each and everyone of us is different.
I guess what I'm saying is, is if you have some one who is willing to trust you then you should keep that trust because like in any family of even a marriage, once that trust is lost it is very hard to gain that persons trust again, even if they say other wise.
Now, I'm just rambling , so off I go. Later
in response to Schmidty...Reply to Schmidty:---You have always been a man that will say it like it is dear friend and i find that admirable. After all I think people want to hear the truth and at times it can be not what they want to hear but what they NEED to hear and I have found your honesty very refreshing to say the least. I think that we all get a false sence of comfort here after awhile and think that what we share behind closed doors is going to stay that way but come on we're on a COMPUTER for Gos's sake, and we need to remind ourselves of that everytime we want to "confide" in another aidmate and it is all a matter of trusting who your "confiding in. have a good one. Sincerely sheshe030
in response to Schmidty...I agree exactly with what you said about someone copies and paste your message a one to one in another place are betraying your trust.
in response to sheshe030...That is unless yu just don't give a rat's patutty about what other people think about you. Which in my case, I do and I don't, realisticly. I've always been that way. Take me or leave me, that's the way i look at it. It's like me stating right now," that's just between you and me." A thousand odd eyes reading this message yet it's between you and me. hahahahahahahaha that always gets me. Just goes to show you shouldn't say to someone what you wouldn't say to their face.
in response to Emil...Ain't that the truth.
i have the same problem with a profile picture. That's why I went with the one I did.I figured good enough.Got a laugh out of that . Take care.
in response to Schmidty...Reply to Schmidty:Boy Howdy, you aren't kidding about that, I have to admit that I am guilty of at times letting my temper and passion for the subject get the best of me and I have written a few one to one's that I would not want anyone to read outside of the intended pary but we have to learn that whatever is printed in these machines is FOREVER, even is we delete it there are those that can retrieve it so never think that just because it's deleted that it's off the computer. Very wise comment Schmidty, ...very widr. sincerely sheshe030
If you only knew how much time I spent trying to get a picture that would make me look reasonably good... Not an easy task I must tell... :)
And yeah... you're right - you can say: as "private" as we can get... no matter online or offline. But still, we don't want people to be "shocked" when something leaks out. If US diplomats' conversations can be leaked out... anything can... :)
By Schmidty - on Jan 24, 2011... modified on Jan 24, 2011
Very well put, even I can understand it. You guys do a great job.
Oh, by the way, your profile picture(this one) looks much better than the old one.
Thanks for all the help.
I'd like to add, in my opinion, that the one-to-one is private though. You are correct that once you put it into you computer there is loss of control, but if the other party takes that information and copies and paste it to someone or another place,they are the ones betraying your trust. Much like a tattle tale or a gossiping meme.You soon learn who you can talk to "privately" and who you can't. Just like in the old days with the CB, you don't put anything out there(in the air or on the wire) that you don't want other people to know about.
A member recently asked us (the AidpageTeam) about the privacy of one-to-one pages. More specifically - can other people access those pages?
The technical answer is - no, only you and the other person can access the one-to-one page you share. Other Aidpage members cannot access that page.
But the true answer is - yes, other people could eventually see the info you posted on a one-to-one page (without accessing the page itself). And it is simple enough to see how.
Anything you post on a one-to-one page... can be copied by the other person and later re-posted somewhere else (on the web or in email to other people).
But, remember... the same is true for any communication outside(!) of Aidpage. When you send a normal email to someone, you lose control over the information in your email. The content of your message is copied on the computer of that other person and stays there even you delete this email from your computer. And this is true for any other form of electronic messaging - instant messaging, AIM, chats, Facebook private messaging, etc.
Generally speaking, on the web, there is no way to have a guarantee for absolute privacy. Anything you share with another person might be shared with other people - by simple copy/paste, forward, etc.
That's why, we don't use the term "private" for the messages on Aidpage.
So... what does this mean?
It means that you should look at this as a question of trust between you and the other person.
It means also that we (all members of Aidpage) should frown upon re-sharing of info outside of the one-to-one page where it was originally posted. The implied trust of the one-to-one page should not be broken.
Exception to that rule would be when a member needs to notify AidpageTeam about cases of perceived offending language, spam/scam messages, etc. We strongly suggest to contact directly AidpageTeam in such occasions. Please, do NOT talk to other members in such occasions because you may spread a false accusation. We know from experience that people do not always understand correctly the intended meaning of written messages. This is the most common reason for tensions between members of online communities. Saying "sorry" after the fact may not heal the wound you may cause by incorrectly “outing” someone. Don't forget - most people on Aidpage are already feeling vulnerable for many good reasons.
I must say since i been on the aidpage it has been uplifting and where i feel we try and be here for each other. I know there a lot of people that out here r i need and i wish i can help everyone but my heart and goes out to everyone here. I always come out hoping the best for all of out here and being inspired by others. when i fill low i can come and read and know im not by myself. I try and lift others up and get lifted by praying for us all here. May God Bless for this site and touch everyone here. I just thanks the Aidpage staff and team for bringing this page to life.
in response to susie's son...this is a great site and place to get info and resources to so many that otherwise would feel overwhelmed, this is a great site and has many wonderful people contributing and helping those in need, great to be a part of that team!!! and knowing u otherwise made someone days a little more CheerFul!!!
I love all the information I have gotten over the last few years...I remember my life was horrible and I looked online to see if I could find help or information to get help. I was in am abusive relationship and felt stuck....I am a single mom and still learning day to day how to do things with just me and my daughter. I am a certified nursing aide....went to a program to get certified....now i am in college going for my associates......I first saw soullights page and it was great.....also starshine....schmidty..nini3 and many others...not only can I get info...I have another family that is always around to keep my head high and support me emotionally...thank you aidpage.......Jenn
Im still a newbie but Im learning the ropes and I love being able to help others,as well I am so thankfull for the help I have recieved from being on here. I try so hard to get on daily but in my currant situation it isnt always possible but I am doing my best. I am so glad this site is here as well as Im glad to be apart of it.I am VERY Happy that Aidpage was created, it is a great site with MANY great people that are on it!
I am happy this site was created as I have made many friends over the last two years and I am happy to see them when they pop in from time to time. I love the idea of being to help people with resources when they are seeking answers to everyday situations. Plus I have learned so much from being here. Oh, I like the new adds send to facebook, twitter, etc..I have been sharing Aidpage on twitter for sometime when I get over to twitter.
Thank you AidpageTeam for having me on board.
Best to you and the site,
Starshine
By removed - on Jan 14, 2011... modified on Jan 14, 2011
I think the site is great. Through it we have the opportunity to seek advice and support when we need it, and can also offer encouragement to others through our on trials and errors. We are able to meet individual with the same interest and goals that we share, and can also learn from others views and opinions. Some people stop by for a short time and others remain active and become like family, but regardless of the time one spends here everyone is welcome. Thanks for allowing me to learn and grow through this site.
